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Death Wobble or WTH
« on: September 11, 2011, 08:24:57 am »
I have had death wobble before but yesterday was messed up.  2009 JK Unlimited not lifted, just state inspected and front suspension checked on 8/29, tires and wheels just rebalanced and rotated.  38,000 miles.  Anyway 65mph on I95 and hit a bump that caused the front end to violently shake so bad that the vehicle could not be steered even an18 wheeler in the number 3 lane turned on his hazards to help  slow traffic.  Once speed was slowed to 30mph it stopped and I was once again able to steer vehicle.  This was about 50 miles into the trip,    this continued to occur 5 more times in the next 150 miles that the vehicle was driven. 

Slowest speed this happened at was 55mph and other then that all I can say is this was caused by something as simple as a dip in the roadway.  Any suggestions as to what may be the root cause of the problem.

Does anyone know if a warped front drive shaft could cause this since the garage said nothing was wrong with the front suspension?




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Re: Death Wobble or WTH
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2011, 09:31:12 am »
sounds like a steering stabilizer, the little shock on the tierod, theres no way to tell when they go out during an inspection.
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Re: Death Wobble or WTH
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2011, 10:18:05 am »

Had the same thing happen with my Dodge pickup.  I checked everything in the frontend and all was fine (only 25000 miles on the truck).  Turned out to be the tires, it had the BFG Rugged Trails on it, I put a new set of Nittos on it and haven't had a problem since.
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Re: Death Wobble or WTH
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2011, 11:53:53 am »
Look into your steering linkage Norm, you didn't have it in 4WD so the front drive shaft would NOT have been an issue or cause IMO.
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Re: Death Wobble or WTH
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2011, 02:29:28 pm »

   I agree wih Rick, the Front DS won't cause D.W., bent/ out of balance DS's  just give ya high frequency vibs. I've have issues with steering components that I only found when I had Colleen start it up and "Yank" (or sometimes turn it completely side to side) the steering wheel back and forth while I laid under it and watched for "any" movement from the Tie Rod ends, Upper or Lower Track Bar ends, etc. Sometimes it came down to me putting a finger on the ends of these components to be able to feel any movement.

   Lots of suggestions, hope you find the problem. I read, in one of the Jeep Mags, that  Steering Dampeners can "Mask" other problems till they go bad. So if a new Dampener seems to solve the problem, I wouldn't quit looking.

   Glad ur OK.

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Re: Death Wobble or WTH
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2011, 04:15:51 pm »
thanks for the advice guys I will definately have it back at the dealer after this vacation.  Hillbilly the steering stabilizer was replaced about a month ago.  It was interesting to see that there are 8 complaints on the NHTSA website about 2009 unlimited owners with the exact same issue and most have the dealer throw parts at it to no avail.
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Re: Death Wobble or WTH
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2011, 08:40:11 pm »
I WOULD CHECK THE FRONT DRIVE SHAFT AT THE VEROSITY JOINT IF YOUR JEEPS FRT SHAFT HAS ONE. MINE BROKE AT 65 MPH ON THE WAY BACK FROM TN ON I-81.
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Re: Death Wobble or WTH
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2011, 06:09:55 pm »
To update it appears as we had a total failure of the aftermarket 5 week old steerting stabilizer.  I will be contacting that manufacturer.  All I can say is the failure in the 2009 was many times worse then when I had a bad stabilizer in my 2006.
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