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The Garage => Technical Advice and Questions => Topic started by: etaucher on December 05, 2009, 03:35:42 pm

Title: Body Lift
Post by: etaucher on December 05, 2009, 03:35:42 pm
I was wondering if the Cherokees can have body lifts, my one friend yes they do. And my one other friend said no, that the Cherokee bodys are welded to the frame.
Title: Re: Body Lift
Post by: (Tattoo) Jack on December 05, 2009, 04:26:44 pm
 
    I thought you said, a while back, that you were gonna buy Eric Zappe's book? If you had, you would know that Cherokee XJ's have uni-bodies. They don't have a standard "Frame", like most vehicles, but have what is called Frame Rails that are attached to the body. So the answer is NO, you can't do a body lift. For less than $20 you can save yourself a lot of time, and $$. e.g., the tires you just bought, this book has info about tire fitment and rim requirements. Now you don't have to buy this book, or listen to me (of which you've done neither) and go about buying parts, working on, and modifying your Jeep by Trial and Error. There's nothing wrong with that method, many people have done that and have built some really nice rigs, although it took them a lot longer and cost 'em a lot more money than others who chose to research and plan first.
   The path we choose to travel, albeit the same destination, is, of course, a personal decision.



Title: Re: Body Lift
Post by: Cherokee 4.0 on December 05, 2009, 07:36:47 pm
I was wondering if the Cherokees can have body lifts, my one friend yes they do. And my one other friend said no, that the Cherokee bodys are welded to the frame.

NO way they are unibody. Just crawl under your jeep and youll see why. Also look where the front coils are located...they are attached to the body and axle...
Title: Re: Body Lift
Post by: etaucher on December 05, 2009, 07:40:40 pm
I personally new that the Cherokees could not get body lifts, but my one friend was 110% sure that they could, he wanted me to post this question. After he read your answer he said "oops, I thought they did". He was also trying to tell me that my Jeep is not an XJ, that its something else. Hes one of those kinds of people that thinks he knows everything there is to know about cars.
Title: Re: Body Lift
Post by: hillbilly on December 05, 2009, 07:42:55 pm
cherokee's pre 84 can be body lifted but xj's 84 up cannot. any xj owners its worth the $15-20 for the book. any one coming to decmbers meeting  ill bring mine so you can get an idea of the value of this knowledge.
 jack i was going to buy a stack of erics book and give them out as xj owners gifts.
Title: Re: Body Lift
Post by: etaucher on December 05, 2009, 07:59:39 pm
Lol, like I said hes one of those guys that thinks he knows everything there is to know about cars.
Title: Re: Body Lift
Post by: (Tattoo) Jack on December 05, 2009, 09:44:48 pm
buy a stack of erics book and give them out as xj owners gifts.

  Hillbilly, That old saying is so true... "you can buy a man a book, but you can't make him read"

Title: Re: Body Lift
Post by: Davew on December 06, 2009, 01:44:29 pm
buy a stack of erics book and give them out as xj owners gifts.

  Hillbilly, That old saying is so true... "you can buy a man a book, but you can't make him read"



So long as it's got pictures I'm good.
Title: Re: Body Lift
Post by: Rick_Bear on December 06, 2009, 05:16:14 pm
I have to ask...How can you own a Uni-Body Jeep and NOT know it...?

YJ's have square (rectangular) headlights as do Cherokee XJ's....."Real Jeeps Have Round Headlights!"!
The origonal Cherokee's had round headlights...Zing!!!

Chew on that one for a while as I stir up the crowd  ;D
Title: Re: Body Lift
Post by: Davew on December 06, 2009, 05:34:39 pm
square lights , round lights, don't make a damn if it don't make it to the trail. :o
Title: Re: Body Lift
Post by: (Tattoo) Jack on December 06, 2009, 08:00:11 pm

  I must say that's a much milder response then I expected  :-\   (but that was from Dave and NOT the Trail Boss)   But I have to agree with you Dave, it ain't much of a trail rig if it ain't on a trail, no matter what kind of headlights it has... now Chew on that :P

  Rick, I guess if they don't look under their Jeep and just flip a coin, they're gonna be right 50% of the time. BUT this ain't that time ;D

Title: Re: Body Lift
Post by: chasm on December 07, 2009, 03:51:33 pm
I have to ask...How can you own a Uni-Body Jeep and NOT know it...?

YJ's have square (rectangular) headlights as do Cherokee XJ's....."Real Jeeps Have Round Headlights!"!
The origonal Cherokee's had round headlights...Zing!!!

Chew on that one for a while as I stir up the crowd  ;D

Sh!t Rick! No wonder I talk to myself... I've been wheeling with square headlights and round headlights!  :-\ I just need to go back to the garage a while and ponder this dilema while I play with my Willy... errr.... CJ3A!  ;D
Title: Re: Body Lift
Post by: (Tattoo) Jack on December 07, 2009, 03:57:18 pm
I just need to go back to the garage... play with my Willy... errr.... CJ3A!  ;D

LMAO
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Title: Re: Body Lift
Post by: Jeepnharleymomma on December 07, 2009, 04:29:53 pm
I have to ask...How can you own a Uni-Body Jeep and NOT know it...?

YJ's have square (rectangular) headlights as do Cherokee XJ's....."Real Jeeps Have Round Headlights!"!
The origonal Cherokee's had round headlights...Zing!!!

Chew on that one for a while as I stir up the crowd  ;D

Sh!t Rick! No wonder I talk to myself... I've been wheeling with square headlights and round headlights!  :-\ I just need to go back to the garage a while and ponder this dilema while I play with my Willy... errr.... CJ3A!  ;D


 :-X :-X :-X

LMAO!!!


Title: Re: Body Lift
Post by: etaucher on December 08, 2009, 09:02:45 am
Like I said I new it couldn't have body lifts, but my one friend was so sure that it could, he wanted me to post this.
Title: Re: Body Lift
Post by: (Tattoo) Jack on December 08, 2009, 09:46:02 am
Like I said I knew it couldn't have body lifts, but my one friend was so sure that it could, he wanted me to post this.

   If you were so sure then why didn't ya say "read my lips". Just have him point out the body mounts to ya.

Title: Re: Body Lift
Post by: Rick_Bear on December 08, 2009, 03:16:43 pm
I stated that I would "stir" up the crowd and I did JUST THAT.....!
I know what I'm good at  ;)

Round, square, rectangular, triangular I could care less...Just take the time to know your vehicle.
This recreation helps if you do. To buy and just play without ANY type of knowledge becomes someone else's frustration.

Many of us have "Been There & Done That"....I mean being on the frustrated end but dedicated to helping out because it's what we do.

I'm hell bent on having the CJ back out there come spring time.....Then I better see everyone else.
I'm years behind fixing & tweeking things after just abusing it without care. It runs, it climbs & crawls so run it hard. I'll get caught up.

Jack, I haven't been on the trail with you since...Hell, I can't really remember but I do know you were mostly stock. Looking forward to it.
I'll be sure to bring plenty of straps and the winch will be in working order to help you out  ;D It has to be, I rely on it myself too much  ;)
Title: Re: Body Lift
Post by: etaucher on December 08, 2009, 10:05:08 pm
Like I said I knew it couldn't have body lifts, but my one friend was so sure that it could, he wanted me to post this.

   If you were so sure then why didn't ya say "read my lips". Just have him point out the body mounts to ya.



 Because hes the type of person that doesn't really take peoples words when it comes to cars or stuff, because hes a mister know it all. He has to look the info up, and thats what he did after I left telling him that the Cherokees can't get body lifts.